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Ok I will return to run the bot in 1 week. (on April 10th)... I have cooled down a bit...but I don't think it is wise for me to jump right back in :-).

If you want please have a look at the bot criteria and change them as you see fit... As to not have this problem agian :-). User:Gnome (Bot)/Help/CleanupCriteria

Feel free to change as you see fit...I will change the bot to match... You and I should do some communication between us before I run agian.

P.S. I was ok with the blocks... It just was the tone of voice behind them, and the general attitude that I got when I tried to find out what was wrong. :-) I probably should not have run, but I was not expecting permision so soon... Once it is given you only get a week to prove the bot. More than likily this whole fiasco was due to unfortionate circumstances. I really am sorry... the timeing of this was just bad. :-).

When I do run I am going to set it up so that we are working togather.Eagle (talk) (desk) 21:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Also can you tell me if it is ok to remove the cleanup tag for wikification...ect??? I'm assumming the answear is no...but just tell me. Or better yet change the Criteria and I will change the bot to fit.
It only takes a couple minutes to modify the bot... It is programmed and working bug free, just not to the satification of the people here. adding and removing features is really easy now!!!
  • We will have to reapply for another test run... as this one will run out tonight. (should not be hard)---Especally if I have your diplomacy to help!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 21:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

In addition, if Gnome bot is unable to remove the cleanup tag... (I'm assumming that Zoe's argument about grammer ect. applies to rememoving the cleanup tag and replacing it with {{wikify}}, {{expert}}, {{sections}}, ect.) what exactly is Gnome bot to do... just add a bunch of tags to all of the articles in the backlog??? (leave the backlog be??) but that defeats the purpose of the bot...

As you see I am concerned about the future of the bots operation... right now as it stands the bot will only be able to replace ((cleanup)) with ((cleanup-list)), and ((disambig-cleanup))...I don't see the back log shrinking under these circumstances.

I really like your new stub type proposals... Very good... the bot will be able to work with those, if we find continuing opposition to Gnome bot's removal of cleanup tags.

NOTE: my personal belief is that every stub can be marked with cleanup, the all are small, and 99% of them have issues with english, or wikification... The cleanup tag should refer to only articles that are not stubs, and that are fully wikified... Kind of like a last polishing. (25% or more are stubs that are on the list)(and if the bot does not mark these with the stub tag, they will be marked with the wikify tag)75%(a guess) of stubs in general need the wikify tag What I am trying to say is that {{cleanup}} should be reserved only for articles that don't fit in the other categories, otherwise it is rather pointless, as the category is used as a catch-all.

{{cleanup-copyedit}} does exist... my bot can't put any-thing into it, but you get the idea... these tags are poorly defined as to there scope... the only ones that are clear at all are {{cleanup-copyedit}}, {{wikify}}, {{sections}}, {{stub}}, ((and a few others, that I can't think of)).

We need to think about redifining(better defining) what putting something in cleanup means, v.s. putting something in one or more of the more specific categories.----

Back to hibernating!!!(I will of course continue this discussion)----This time we are getting this right

New idea[edit]

Back out of hibernation... I think I have a solution to the problem...

The objection seems to be to the automatic removal of cleanup --> stub. If that is the case than we can have the bot put them on a list, similar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Book to novel autolist that Gnome bot made. This list started with around 600 articles on it... it is down to about 100 articles. I had the bot make the list... As I knew that this task was not automatable.

For some reason people really like lists of this sort... especally when they are accurate... I think it is belause it is a list of easy edits to boost peoples edit counts... (it is easier to go through a list that is 95% accurate, no matter how long... than it is to go through the whole category at one time over 2000 articles) But really I don't care... The job gets done... and that in the end is the point:-)

I propose that instead of changing cleanup --> stub, the bot make a list with the articles name and the number of words, and the %wikified).Eagle (talk) (desk) 23:23, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok Hibernation for real.

Daily checkup[edit]

It seems that we have had only positive thoughts toward the bot, (exepting the block and subsequent mess)... That appears to be changing... Opposition to the idea is slowly riseing, i.e. the first opposing comment I have seen (this opposition does not appear to be related to the block).

I left a link below, I think we need to rediscuss Gnome (Bot)'s mission... (I wrote the code... We are going to do something with it... just what we need to figure out. :-)

I am sorry about the botophobia... but the comments that zoe and others left... and the dificult trail I had to follow to get even a vauge idea was... in short disturbing... to me total lack of trust... but I am going to leave that for another day.Eagle (talk) (desk) 19:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Cleanup#Bot thoughts

PNA on Archaeology WikiProject[edit]

Hi, just seen your addition to the WP:ARCHAEO page. Not sure where this came from could you explain. I'm not sure that the link to page really covers it. Is this a single additioin to a project or are all about to get similar treatment. Not against it just seeking to understand what is going on. Also part of "Sports Olympics" and "Novels" projects and nothing appears to have changed there. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for you response. Also happy to get envolved if you want to try adding it to Novels WikiProject. Olympics might need a bit more introduction to others as a "lot" of people seem to "contribute" / "get in each others way" on that project. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Bunch of stuff from Eagle 101[edit]

Hi its me Eagle_101

Thank you for fixing my horrible English skills, and grammer... on the bot criteria page. I'm a math and physics major, not english:-).

I am e-mailing you to inform you that I have indeed managed to get topic specific programming started, It is very basic right now, but is possible!!!! I am using a bit more than just finding the word in an article, the bot actually counts the frequency of apperence of ALL key words, than compares that to the total number of words, and yeilds a percent. In short it can tell which words are used the most.

In addition, it can tell if the key word is wikified, (If it is than it is more likely to be relevent to determining what category is what.) examples. This book is novel. as compared to This novel is a book written by ...

It is rather amazing how many of the key words turn out to be wikified, (of course this only works on articles that don't need to be wikified).

I am e-mailing you as Zoe unbocked only his block, there still is a second block left... And I triggered it. (it's rather funny:-)

Tell me what you think,... Gnome bot can do topic sorting with ease and a bit (dare I say, a lot) more programming of what words to look for. (I would like some serious imput here.... what words should be key words for what category or categories)..... The bot can (and will) keep track by a "point system" of each category that is possible. In short, key words can mean more than just one thing.) Agian, my code is very flexable, as it is set up now, the bot can "wieght" certian words. This will need more discussion between the two of us and the community in general... but it can be done, and I have programmed the initial parts of this system.:-)

Please consider and think about the above....

I originally was going to e-mail this to you, Ignore all references to e-mailing anything, just post on my page.

Eagle (talk) (desk) 00:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. if you would like me to, I will archive most of this old stuff on your page for you... As this page is getting long.

Ok get me in contact with Beland[edit]

First off, yes massive cut 'n paste... there is no better way

Second, can you get Beland to look at my bot's criteria... and tell him about the category sorting.... and if it is not too much, point me to his bot's criteria... That way we will not trip over each other's toes. As it is, my bot can do auto-categorization into the main categories... I am just missing key words (and what wieght to give each word). What is Berland doing excactly... please elaborate. I am going to try and look myself.. but I probably will not find it!!!!

Thanks for your responseEagle (talk) (desk) 14:48, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Just tell beland that my bot is not yet approved... It will need a trial run, In addition my bot's features may not be on line entirely for about a month (hope to shorten it, but I need key words and time to figure out false positives) In addition, I probably should start with really easy to tell categoryies first. Give me some ideas.

P.S. I have a problem with useing the names of the categies... Chemistry means more than the science of chemistry... two people have good chemistry... same thing for most category names... we need to start with obious categories and work ourselves in... (Archology (I think I spelled it right) is a very distinct word... things like that.Eagle (talk) (desk) 15:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Physics[edit]

Why are you dismantling PNA/Physics? It seems to me that it's a better place to centralize notes on articles needing attention that WikiProject Physics, and I didn't see any discussion about the drastic changes being implemented. If this discussion has occurred elsewhere, please make a note about it on PNA/Physics. --Christopher Thomas 16:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

You may wish to consider putting the notice at the top of the page, rather than buried in the middle. You might also wish to _suggest_ transclusion of PNA/Physics to relevant WikiProjects, rather than implement it. I've also moved the comments you copied to the WikiProject Pseudoscience page. I recognize that you're putting a lot of effort into this, and that there's a reason for it, but please realize that WikiProject main pages tend to be fairly meticulously maintained by their members. --Christopher Thomas 17:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I can't speak for WikiProject Physics, but please don't unilaterally transclude anything into WikiProject Pseudoscience ever again. Put a suggestion on the talk page. The talk page _does_ get read. --Christopher Thomas 04:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


I have not yet put it on the criteria list, as

  • A)The bot will not be running immediately...
  • B)I don't have User:Beland's respose yet.
  • C)I fear the amount of contriversy that this could bring to Gnome (Bot), I am going to wait untill I see if Beland thinks it is a good Idea.

P.S. Please tell me now what others may say about auto-categorization... This may be a topic to be put onto the Cleanup sorting proposal... pending Beland's response.Eagle (talk) (desk) 02:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Let's take this slow, I want to leave plenty of time for objections.

P.S. Due to real life interfering I will be a bit sparse... Probably little or no programming for a week or two... I will be checking in on my talk page of course... I don't think that will harm Belend and my bot's potential to work togather... Autocategorization I predict will draw some debate... and I think my bot should not run untill after it is over.Eagle (talk) (desk) 03:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't autocategorize[edit]

Great idea!!! Gee so simple and easy, but I never thought of it. (Knocks head on wall) Thank you. If we wait for bot approval after the autocat feature is tested than the bot will not be running (on articles) for 2-3 months... I am in school and exams are comming. In addition it is a lot of typing, (I am trying to use some Algorithms, perhaps will make more accurate (presise) and less typing on my part.), (will enable me to add new criteria, and new output with fewer lines of code.

My view is that I am going to take all the time that is needed to get this correct. (please help me identify good starting categories, and perhaps what to look for, other than the specific category name... I can't use just that... the word "novel" appears in more articles than just those that are in category novel. Ditto for every other category name in wikipedia!!! Any help in this area is Greatly appreciatedEagle (talk) (desk) 18:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


Ok statistical studies it is... (woohoo!!! more work... at least this is automated, to exept for reading the output:-)

Without help, i.e. someone telling me to look for X, Y, Z.... and take the most commenm, this will extend the bot startup date considerably. Can you at least point me in the right direction... (how about a obsucre category to start... and I will work my way up.

If you are unable, that is ok... just keep working with me , and when I get the bot started, (i.e. testing--making sample output in the form of a list), please help me look over them and tell me if the runs were effective.

P.S. the only reason I responed so fast, is that I am doing research now on wikipedia!!!

Eagle (talk) (desk) 19:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

As long as it is useful[edit]

Not to bad!!! great idea's... can you give me a link to the statistically improbable phrases... that will make my analysis sooooo much easier.... as I will only have to look for which words show up in each category..... I have a idea marked on paper on how I am going to do this... (the method), but I need to know what to do with the info that the algothim gives me... (i.e. when I see novel, assume that means the article is about the author of a novel, or the novel itself.) One or two more words, such as book, literature, ect., can also be added to improve results. (I am not just throwing out ideas here, I have a plan of action:-), I just need to know how to interprete results.Eagle (talk) (desk) 19:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I will start with antropology... :-) (I need to analyze the category first, i.e. taking representive samples, and going from there)

P.S. I have my research done, I am going to look for potential words. a link to my results is here--These are NOT done in any scientific manner( I am reading the article spotting words that appear multiple times in different articles)--Than I can do some analysis off-site on the specific words that I have found, (data dump).

User:Eagle 101/keywords/potential

Feel free to add your own!!!Eagle (talk) (desk) 19:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Will think on that[edit]

Perhaps you can elaborate... I already had a plan to do this, but you may have something to add. (please elaborate on your last post)-(plus to you have any links to amazon's uncommen word list, if it is available)Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:01, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I will stick to what I started with, forget amazon[edit]

I will use my plan that I have here... The concept (method) i will use is already partly on my computer... I just need to find good keywords for the categories that I am going to start with)

forget amazon, I will just software that is on my computer (i.e. I will do my own analysis), are you ok with the bot being delayed??? Or is this a problem.Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


Just is it useful... if we want to run it, I will need about 2-weeks before I am ready to ask on WP:BOT, as I have real life in the way. (the bot is done, ...first part, I just don't have the time to supervise it.)Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


I must have missed something... I thought I go through WP:CU's list. please explain??? sorry.Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Riiight... how did I miss this???[edit]

Wow. do they know that Gnome bot is going to try to autocat... at least basic (top level) autocat??

Also Beland has not contacted me... advice here??

Please explain in more detial on my talk page, exactly what Gnome (bot) is to do now, and exactly what is planned for Gnome bot. Because I am lost.

Very good!!![edit]

ok so no matter what, I am to only add, never delete, even in the case of disambig-cleanup and cleanup-list?

I'm not worried about Beland, I just am feeling abit out of the loop here. Is there a page where all of this has been discussed???

P.S. This sounds Gread!!!!, very good work and coordination on your part. Thank youEagle (talk) (desk) 20:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

sorry one more... than I must go :-([edit]

Thanks for the page.

ok so no matter what, I am to only add, never delete, even in the case of disambig-cleanup and cleanup-list?

sounds good[edit]

I trust that you will do that disscussing... I can, but I suck at diplomacy, and discribing what I want to do... (remember my criteria...)Eagle (talk) (desk)

On the cleanup proposal... Is the below Gnome (Bot) as well... In the future, working off of the leftovers.

  • If anyone has ideas on how to automate topic-specific sorting, I would love to hear them. I'd previously considered it too massive to tackle, but the more stuff that gets autosorted, the less has to be sorted by eyeball -- and the volume of articles to be sorted is the #1 objection to...

I have class, so I will respond tomarrow. (we kept talking, so I just hung around, now Gotta Run!!!)

Eagle (talk) (desk) 21:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

some good search words[edit]

I am slowly, through the database dumps, and google building up a list of good critiria for automatic categorization.

I have started with Category:Anthropology, here is a link (below), please look at this often and critique it... Than I only need post in one place... For now on I will just update this page... instead of filling your talk page with questions... I've done enough of that... Do your critique in the sections named, comments... (I will have one of these for each category that autocategorization will be done on... (All will be on this page)

User:Eagle 101/keywords/potential

Eagle (talk) (desk) 04:27, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic groups[edit]

I'm confused about this edit of yours: [1]. Why do a bunch of archaeology belong prominently as part of WikiProject Ethnic Groups? - Jmabel | Talk 01:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Boat boy questions[edit]

Hello, Alba,

Regarding the entry for Boat boy, I wonder if you could answer some questions for me.

The article does not cite its sources. I am fairly new to Wikipedia. Does this mean that the article needs someone to find a source external to Wikipedia and cite it? If so, I am glad to do that. The article is reasonably accurate as it is, but I am glad to try to find something else if that helps.

I am a thurifer and work with boat boys and girls. I have one photograph of a thurifer and boat girl and have permission to use it. Is there any reason not to use it? It does have the photo of a child. Is this acceptable to post? Is there any risk to doing this?

Sorry I did not sign the above - just my oversight. I know better. Thanks for your reply. I'll work on the Boat boy article. Sarum blue 17:58, 13 April 2006
OK - I worked on the boat boy page. Glad to take your comments on that if you wish.... Sarum blue 21:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


I agree that this needed redesign, but how exactly is this "bot updating" to work? What exactly is the procedure for reporting problems? (You can answer here; I'll check back.) ---CH 15:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Tagging any page in the Category:Physics or its subcategories with {{cleanup}} will put it on the cleanup list; tagging any page in the Category:Physics with {{expand}} or {{expert}} puts it in the relevant subsections as well. On top of that, we are trying to build another sorting bot that can place new stubs and cleanup pages without a category in the physics category, so that they too will be listed.
Now, this doesn't relieve the need to delineate the problems with the article. Those that can be automated, again, will be -- such as {{wikify}}. But descriptors still need to be posted, on the article's talk page or (if desired) the talk page of the PNA subpage.
The basic idea is to keep these lists rapidly and comprehensively updated. In the previous system, things were posted only if someone very familiar with Wikipedia and the problems in the article hunted down PNA/Physics and posted. This meant that many, maybe most, of the pages that needed help simply never got attended to -- which is why the cleanup, wikify, and expert lists are all horribly backlogged. By pooling these projects to PNA, autoupdating them, and transcluding them to the people who care about such articles, we hope to have a much more efficient system for Wikipedia maintenance. Alba 18:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


  1. what about expert flagged articles in subcategories like General relativity?
  2. what about {{POV-because|REASON}} and similarly flagged articles? Currently I think this is the most common way to flag articles which WP Physics members believe are biased toward some crank notion. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Pseudoscience/Articles_attracting_pseudoscientific_edits for hundreds of examples, including many in physics-related articles. FYI, I and others have been using PNA/Physics primarily to alert physicists Wikipedians to relevant AfDs and cruft problems, so I hope you will modify the bot to look for POV flags and list affected articles under an appropriate new section.
  3. numerous articles I have written or extensively edited have expert flags and todo lists on the talk pages; the intent was to help organize the work of WikiProject GTR. What about modifying the bot to note when an article having expert flag also has a todo list in talk page?

I strongly agree with the goal of trying to streamline and improve WP article improvement/maintanance, but I suspect the biggest problem may be essential unsoluable: lack of a sufficiently expert editor pool large enough and energetic enough to cope with a horde of monomaniacal vandals, cranks, and well-intentioned but unwikiskilled newbies, inexperienced writers, etc. ---CH 18:40, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

  1. Subcategories and sub-subcategories are included. The bot programmer, User:Beland, is of the opinion that sub-sub-subcategories is going too far, but you can ask him about that.
  2. Hadn't considered POV monitoring or todo lists; I'm sure those could be done -- probably a short list.
  3. That's why we're trying to automate as much as possible, so that the amount of 'expert' knowledge needed is minimized. Nonetheless I find that, over the course of human history, the truth has won out over vandals, cranks, newbies, and inexperienced writers. I feel sure the same will occur on Wikipedia -- in the long run. I mean, if you are right, then Britannica is right and the entire Wikipedia project is hopeless. Alba 19:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I add wikification and POV tags to the list of things to be aggregated by topic. Others have requested it, and the PNA list really is intended to aggregate anything that anyone interested in the topic might care to work on. I can probably do todo lists, too, though that may take some more programming. -- Beland 03:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Auto categorization[edit]

I am going to back off of this, as User:Beland told me that this is not needed. (my bot will stick to original tasking). Eagle (talk) (desk) 22:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Eagle 101#Re: Proposal to help Perle with WP:CU----link to beland's response.

  • Any "autocategorization" will be placed on to lists so that humans can do the actual editing (double-check the bot)

Alba, give me your two cents[edit]

Belend's response is interesting, but as you were the one who asked for my bot to work on WP:CU, you really need to look at this. Please tell me what you think. (It is rather interesting...)

User talk:Gnome (Bot)/Help/CleanupCriteria#Recommendations


Hmm, interesting. Yeah, we will have to try to balance condensing the reports with not making them look too crowded. I suspect things will evolve as people (hopefully) start to actually use the pages, and request changes. -- Beland 03:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Cat Lovers Committee[edit]

Alba, from your userboxes, I can see that you love cats.

Would you be interested in joining the Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee?

If you want to join, you can add yourself to the members list and contact the committee founder, me, GeorgeMoney on my talk page.

Thank You. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 21:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Fumocy page?[edit]


You flagged the Fumocy page for being sub-standard. It would be more helpful if you said what is wrong with it, besides saying that you don't understand it. It has been around for a couple of years and maybe no-one has been reading it, but it attracted very few edits so I think it is safe to assume that most people who did thought it was fine as it was. At least it is factually correct.

Tom Peters 22:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

In reply to your response: I elaborated on the explanation on the use of the fumocy for predicting the new and full moons, now on Talk:Full_moon_cycle. Please let me know what you think of it now. Tom Peters 00:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Alba, would you spend some time reviewing the expanded explanation on the use of the fumocy for predicting the new and full moons in Talk:Full_moon_cycle? If now comprehensible, I'd like to put it back at the end of the main page. Tom Peters 23:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Tom again here: would you care to give another look at Talk:Full_moon_cycle? I hope it is fully comprehensible now, and I like to put it back on the main page. Tom Peters 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


If you're finding that the "cleanup" list is too large, how about filtering out pages that are already listed from it due to other tags? A bot-updated list _is_ useful, though the tendency towards growth seems inevitable (we have half a million articles or more; quite a few of them will need cleanup). --Christopher Thomas 19:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee[edit]

Alba, I can see from your userboxes that you love cats.

Would you be interested in joining the Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee?

If you want to join, you can add yourself to the members list, and contact me, Sergeant Snopake, on my talk page, or the committee founder, GeorgeMoney, on his.

The Wikipedia Cat Lover's Committee has also been nominated for deletion.

Whether you join or not, please could you comment on the deletion page to help keep the committee going.

Please vote keep.

Thank You very much! :)

I, uh, I accidently put this message in your userbox disscussion page, also. Sorry. I've been doing this for nearly two hours now, and I only had about six hours sleep last night, so I'm bound to make mistakes. Sorry all the same.

Sergeant Snopake 10:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh my God, this is so embarrassing. I've just noticed that GeorgeMoney already put an invitation on your talk page. I'm so, so sorry. I really screwed up with you, Alba and I will NEVER DO IT AGAIN. In fact, I'm just going to leave your talk page alone entirely. Forever. Sergeant Snopake 22:14, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi Alba... just wanted to say thanks for helping me out on the Lado Guitars subject! I'm new to editing on Wikipedia and really appreciate people to criticise constuctively. Doug Darkwater 19:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

SANE and Peace Action[edit]

Thanks for bringing it to my attention that the SANE article still existed. I was the one who merged it in with Peace Action some time ago, and didn't realize I'd forgotten to redirect the old article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 21:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Eagle's still here[edit]

Is gnome bot still needed? If not just tell me and I will find other uses for the code. Sorry for taking so long but I was kind of waiting for a response from you:-).Eagle (talk) (desk) 15:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol, I have never been much of a grammer freak. About the only thing that I type neatly is code. Every thing else there is Grammer check and spell check:-) Though thanks I will try to improve a bit. Ok, why don't you modify Gnome bot's function list to enclude what is needed, feel free to hack off what ever you want. Plus since I have been out of the loop, please give me an idea on where to run Gnome (bot)... what I mean is what categories should I run in? Also when I ask for a trial period, (I'll let you know) please drop in a note saying that the bot's functions are wanted. thanks.Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
To be frank, the code has been ready for a while, so all that is needed, after you update the task list, is to reapply for a trial period.(I already got the bot unblocked)Eagle (talk) (desk) 20:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


When using template tags on talk pages, don't forget to substitute with text by adding subst: to the template tag. For example, use {{subst:test}} instead of {{test}}. This reduces server load and prevents accidental blanking of the template. — Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 22:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Gnome Bot[edit]

Ok, I have the bot progammed and ready with the selected features. Unfortunatly I don't have time to watch my bot run for trial run right now. Is it ok with you to delay the Start date to 10 June 2006 (at least). I am sorry about this, but as my bot's mission is not urgent and the realworld is giving me problems (agian), I see no problem with the delay. What do you think?Eagle talk 21:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Note: please respond on my talk page as I do not watch other users pages. Thanks.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture[edit]

Hi, We've got some articles on this Wikiproject in the PNA list that don't belong to architecture at all. For instance Vehicle, Blanco galindo (Geography), The Deaf Club, etc. etc. Am I ok to edit the list to sift out non-architectural articles?--Mcginnly 16:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Seeing as you are inactive... Give me any start date after July but before the final week of august[edit]

As the title says... I have gotten ensnared in 'real life', June 10 is not looking good... I am sorry, depending on how busy I am, I may consider giving you the program and allowing you to babysit it though it's trial runs... Of course I will tell you how to shut it down ect... (that is last ditch, if July does not work...)Eagle talk 04:24, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Help researching info on MIT graduate Ed Seykota[edit]

I need help writing the article about Ed Seykota, I need help researching his time in MIT, I need access to MITs library. I want copies of his thesis, papers etc. I also need official documentation about his degrees at MIT. Please help. How do i go about doing this, I do not live in the US.

trade2tradewell (at) yahoo (dot) com - Replace "at" with "@", and "(dot)" with "."


--Trade2tradewell 20:10, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Search help[edit]

Do you have an account at maybe you can search for me ? Edward A Seykota, Edward Seykota, Ed Seykota or Seykota.
He graduated 1969


--Trade2tradewell 22:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Your valuable time[edit]

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International Peace Institute[edit]

Dear alba,

please clarify wht you mean by

"But without the evidence I'm not going to do their work for them"

in the International Peace Institute deletion page

Echo Valley, Colt 45[edit]

Many of the other porn stars do not have the notibility of Maxi Mounds, really lame excuse to delete these pages

Editing pages during AfD[edit]

I saw in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starbuck (Battlestar Galactica) discussion that you stated you were reluctant to edit during AfD. Please do so - many articles have been saved by people editing during the process. Moving a page would be a bad idea would possibly be unwise, but editing is certainly allowed. Cheers, Yomanganitalk 10:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


Hello Alba,

Thank you for moving my edit - my very first!! - of the Pern topic (reference to W.B. Yeats) to match the Wikipedia format. As a newbie, I'm still learning. I looked at the topic "history" to see why it was moved and saw your note, "move Yeats entymology to match Wikipedia format". Although Dame McCaffrey has created a novel ecology for the planet Pern, I don't think you were referring to insects (entomology). Did you mean etymology? :)

Best, Bad ascii 07:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking for members to join Project Boston[edit]

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Full moon cycle put up for deletion[edit]

Alba, the Full moon cycle page has been submitted for deletion ( You expressed interest in the article before so you may wish to express your opinion. Tom Peters 12:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Ann Crecente[edit]

Hi, you chimed in during the discussion for an AfD for this article a while back. The article was re-created after two pieces of legislation were passed. If you could please look at the new article and share your thoughts at the NEW AfD I would appreciate it!

Jennifer Ann Crecente 2nd AfD

Drew30319 18:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia...[edit]

I recently received a message from you about posting nonsense, which I didn't do. While I do live in Alabama, I have never edited the page "Alabama School of Fine Arts." Perhaps my ISP has given me an IP that the user who did edit that page must have had.

Best regards,

Brian —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hymn of the Soviet Union (other language versions)[edit]

I understand that transwiki items are candidates for speedy deletion, but since I was reverted before doing a merge and redirect, my only step was to go the AFD route. I was dealt the same hand when dealing with flag galleries. Explendido Rocha was the one who was reverting me. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)


I'm not sure if there's a technical problem with the ambox template, or if you made a coding mistake in converting the cleancat template to ambox format, but your conversion caused the template coding to appear on category pages ({{ambox | type = content | text = This category is in need of attention. See talk page for a characterisation of the experienced problems. When there is consensus that the problems mentioned on the talk page have been resolved, this notice can be removed.) instead of the actual template itself. I've temporarily reverted it back to the old format, because I'm not sure how to fix whatever was wrong with it — could you or somebody else look into it? Thanks. Bearcat 20:39, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, found the problem...the closing }} was in the wrong place. Bearcat 20:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Winzapper[edit]

It's been nominated again. Please help. Captain Zyrain 13:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for your edits to List of ecoregions in the United States (EPA). Per this conversation, you may want to note public domain status in the footnote. Thanks. Northwesterner1 (talk) 10:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC) Also, could you explain your split proposal? I'm not quite sure what you want to split... Thanks! Northwesterner1 (talk) 11:02, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll reply on the article talk page.Northwesterner1 (talk) 23:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Redirect of 1 E2 people[edit]

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D&D articles for Wikipedia 0.7[edit]

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Hey y'all![edit]

We're going to be having our first Mississippi meetup next month, and I would love it if you'd like to come out! A few of us will be staying overnight, so if you feel up to it, we could have a meet and greet that night and then breakfast the next morning and talk about Wikipedia and everyone's areas of expertise. Let's show 'em how it's done Southern-style! Mike H. Fierce! 21:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Assiti Shards effect[edit]

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Articles for deletion nomination of Assiti Shards effect[edit]

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deletion discussion[edit]

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Nomination of Dread Pirate Roberts for deletion[edit]

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